were many issues that were brought up as we talked about why safety was what it was, management, culture, entrepreneurialism, MYEs, worker training, worker welfare, and they are all correct. At the end of the day, all these aspects - any one of these factors - can lead to a safety lapse, because an accident occurs at that point. I read accident reports that come across my desk. You find that even though certain safeguards have been put in place, ridiculous accidents happen because there is a lack of attention, whether it is due to fatigue or a variety of other reasons. Therefore, MOM is quite clear on the magnitude of this task. I want to assure Members that we are fully committed. Many of you have said that MOM and Government should take the lead. And, indeed, we will. Indeed, we will step up our measures. I welcome Members' re-enforcement that MOM should be given more resources for this and I will remind the relevant agencies that you have also backed us when we ask for more resources. maintained. For example, for construction companies with worksites, a contract sum higher or equal to $30 million - I think Dr Teo Ho Pin brought up the point - we should have an independent audit. This is already mandated by law. Or shipyards hiring 200 or more workers or factories engaged in the processing or manufacturing of petroleum, petroleum products, petrochemicals, petrochemical products, or factories engaged in manufacture of fabricated metal products, machinery or equipment with a hundred or more persons are employed. It is already mandated. So you will need to leverage off this system. workplaces, one for each worksite, they will be scurrying around. We can stop all work and the only way you can stop work accidents is to stop all work. But that will grind our economy to a halt. So we have to do it at a pace which is reasonable and we will have to live, if you like, with the inefficiencies that Members talk about - the MYEs and the training - and tackle these problems at the same time.competitive, and yet, have the safest safety record. Even in Singapore, with our current restrictions of MYE and tender, I can show you many examples of good developers and contractors who have got excellent safety records and yet remain competitive. So I do not want to perpetuate this notion that you can only be competitive if you cut corners, and you are unsafe. If you choose to do that, that is fine. The law will catch up with you. We have enhanced penalties and the penalties are meant to reduce risk-taking. And risk-taking also means working your employees to such an extent that they are so tired to disregard safety, in that sense.these safety and health management committees work out processes by which, whether you are exempted or included in the law, they can bring up these issues. That is something worth considering. How do you put in processes so that there is some protection, not only of the individual workers standing up against the system and being terrified of having to come up with a system? I think, in the extreme, we know that MOM and the unions would protect them. But in between, we will give them much more comfort levels. So let us explore that to see how we can expand, even apart from clause 18 which protects whistle-blowers, their comfort space. The best position, as Mdm Halimah says, is where management welcomes somebody and does not even see him as a whistle-blower, but as providing active feedback. If we move towards that culture, we have succeeded to a great extent. But in the process, let us see how we can liberalise or increase that space in which workers can also contribute without fear or retribution.