In our view, harm is not limited to specific categories such as pregnancy or a specific psychiatric illness that is a consequence of the offence. While a court may not take into account facts that are part and parcel of the offence itself, there is no reason to exclude the type of harm and suffering that may be experienced by a victim just because many victims in a similar position would also experience such harm. In this case, it is difficult to suggest that there was no severe harm when V was so young during the time of the offences. As the trial Judge noted, having suffered pain and alarm, V retreated into a position of not resisting the appellant’s assaults because she felt it was pointless to resist as the appellant was stronger than her and there was no one else present in the family home on those occasions. In any case, even if we disregard this factor of severe harm, there would still be four aggravating factors which would put this case firmly in the middle of band 2 for both sentencing frameworks. Overall, considering the totality of the offences, we do not think that the indicative starting points used by the trial Judge were excessive at all.